Is Harley's LiveWire Brand Dead? - Adventure Rider (2024)

The wave of electric mobility is coming, and transportation companies are paddling hard to catch that wave. One of those companies is Harley-Davidson-owned LiveWire Group. With the backing of the MoCo, the LiveWire Group produces both full-size electric motorcycles and electric child-sized balance bikes.

2023 Financial results

Recently, the LiveWire Group released its 2023 final results. As with most new startups, especially those with significant capital and development expenses, profitability is more of a long-term goal than a short-term one. So, the fact that LiveWire posted an operating loss of $116,000,000 is not that big a deal since LiveWire has the funding and assistance of its parent company, Harley-Davidson, to fall back upon. Harley-Davidson is by far the largest shareholder in LiveWire.

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LiveWire’s STACYC kid-sized balance bikes brought in more revenue than the full-sized LiveWire motorcycles in 2022. Image: LiveWire

But what about sales?

More concerning are the sales of actual motorcycles. LiveWire’s first full-size electric motorcycle was initially produced and branded as a Harley-Davidson. Called the “LiveWire” at its initial launch and later called the ” LiveWire One,” the bike came with a nearly $30,000 price tag.

To say the least, sales were not brisk. It’s difficult to determine how many LiveWire and LiveWire One motorcycles have been sold. However, the LiveWire Group’s 2022 full-year results show that only 50 Harley-Davidson LiveWire One motorcycles were sold. 2023 was even worse with zero (i.e., none) Harley-Davidson LiveWire One motorcycles sold. Depending on whose data you believe, in total, Harley-Davidson and LiveWire have only sold somewhere around 1,700 motorcycles since inception. This includes their “newly released” S2 Del Mar middleweight motorcycle.

Could the S2 Del Mar boost LiveWire’s sales significantly?

The S2 Del Mar is a LiveWire Group manufactured motorcycle. It was the first LiveWire motorcycle to use the company’s new “Arrow” architecture, which the company claims has an all-new in-house developed battery pack, power electronics, motor, telematics, and associated software. Better still, the LiveWire Group claimed that the S2 architecture could be used for other LiveWire motorcycles, including the in-process and yet-to-be-officially-named S3. Priced initially at $16,999 and later at $15,499, the Del Mar was nearly half the price of the original LiveWire. The new machine was supposed to offer a more affordable route to the LiveWire brand.

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For the full year of 2023, LiveWire managed to sell only 660 motorcycles. Image: LiveWire

So when it went on sale to the public, the LiveWire Group hoped that the new machine would sell out and contribute to the LiveWire Group’s coffers significantly. However, the reality is that the S2 Del Mar underperformed in the sales department.

In a 2022 financial outlook for 2023, the LiveWire Group said it expected to sell between 750 to 2000 Del Mar electric motorcycles. But when the year closed, the LiveWire Group had only sold 660 electric motorcycles.

Adding in the mere 597 motorcycles LiveWire sold in 2022 and the 461 sold in 2021, the LiveWire group had only sold 1,718 electric motorcycles in three full years. While LiveWire electric motorcycle sales did increase year over year, selling 63 motorcycles more than in the previous year is nothing to crow about.

But what about 2024?

From the LiveWire Group’s perspective, perhaps things aren’t so bad. In the past few years, there have been some significant obstacles to overcome. The effects of COVID undoubtedly impacted product development, parts availability, manufacturing, and even labor. But while COVID-19 raged in earnest in 2020, things were levelling out by the end of 2021.

So, 2022 should have been the beginning of LiveWire’s recovery and bigger sales. But it didn’t happen. With three years of sales behind them and only 1,718 unit sales completed, now LiveWire is telling investors that it plans to sell only between 1,000 and 1,500 revenue units in all of 2024.

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In 2022, LiveWire said its sales would increase phenomenally to about 190,000 units by 2030. Image: LiveWire

That number is a far cry from what the company had previously told investors in early 2022. At that time, a LiveWire investors document projected that LiveWire’s electric motorcycles would boom. According to that document, sales in 2023 should have been 7,236 motorcycles, and in 2024, that number would more than double to 15,736 unit sales.

While doubling sales in a single year would be phenomenal, the LiveWire Group also claimed that the following year, sales of LiveWire units would more than triple 2024’s sales and grow to 53,341 units. And in 2026, the LiveWire Group said that they would nearly double 2025’s sales and ship 100,961 units. Ultimately, by 2030, the LiveWire Group projected sales of their motorcycles would reach about 190,000 units.

Reasonable initial Projections?

When a company projects that in a year, it will double its unit sales, that’s a big deal. But it’s not an impossible feat. It’s challenging but not impossible. But when the same company then says unit sales will triple the following year and then double again the following year, many people would really start to question whether the company’s projections are reasonable.

Current projection

With the benefit of hindsight, the LiveWire Group’s projection seemed to have fallen to more reachable goals. Currently, the LiveWire Group says that it expects to sell between 1,000 and 1,500 revenue units. That’s substantially less than the 15,700+ motorcycles it previously said it could sell.

There is another

In the original Star Wars trilogy, Obi-Wan says to Yoda, “That boy is our last hope,” to which Yoda replies, “No, there is another.” The same goes for the LiveWire Group. The S2 Del Mar is not the end of the LiveWire Group’s model lineup.

The LiveWire S3 is in process but has yet to be publicly released. Rumors say that the bike will be named the “Mulholland” and that it will use the Arrow architecture to build a smaller version of the S2. Perhaps this bike is what LiveWire thinks will drive its sales.

Reality

Up until now, LiveWire’s sales have not gone as predicted. That said, its stock currently resides at about $10/share, which is about the same as it was when issued in November 2020. The stock was as low as $4.85 in December 22. So, considering today’s stock price, some people must think that LiveWire can make a go of it and succeed in the electric motorcycle marketplace.

But for now, LiveWire’s previous giant sales projections look to be unattainable. The question is, how long will Harley-Davidson back a company that continues to incur high costs and return little? Is LiveWire a dead man walking or perhaps a zombie looking for more cash to eat? Or will they grow, just more slowly than initially expected? What do you think? Let us know in the comments below.

Is Harley's LiveWire Brand Dead? - Adventure Rider (2024)

FAQs

What happened to Harley LiveWire? ›

LiveWire is an American electric motorcycle manufacturer. It was initially launched as a dedicated electric vehicle (EV) division for Harley Davidson in July 2021. The company was spun-off from its parent and went public on September 27, 2022, via merger with a special-purpose acquisition company (SPAC).

Is LiveWire still in business? ›

(“LiveWire” or the “Company”) (NYSE: LVWR) today reported first quarter 2024 results. “We are pleased with the successful launch of the S2 Mulholland, and with three bikes in market, we are proud that LiveWire is now the #1 on-road electric motorcycle retailer in the U.S.

How many LiveWire motorcycles have been sold? ›

2023 was even worse with zero (i.e., none) Harley-Davidson LiveWire One motorcycles sold. Depending on whose data you believe, in total, Harley-Davidson and LiveWire have only sold somewhere around 1,700 motorcycles since inception. This includes their “newly released” S2 Del Mar middleweight motorcycle.

Is LiveWire made by Harley? ›

The Harley-Davidson LiveWire is an electric motorcycle by Harley-Davidson, their first electric vehicle. Harley-Davidson says the maximum speed is 110 mph (180 km/h) with claimed 105 hp (78 kW) motor.

Did Harley discontinue the electric bike? ›

The storied American motorcycle maker may have spun off the battery-powered Livewire as its own separate brand, but that doesn't mean the brand isn't fully committed to electrification. In fact, its CEO, Jochen Zeitz, says that company will eventually only make electric bikes.

Why did Harley-Davidson spin off LiveWire? ›

Electric motorcycles were supposed to supercharge Harley-Davidson's (HOG 0.14%) future, but slack sales short-circuited the growth hype and the business was spun off in September into the stand-alone LiveWire Group (LVWR 0.91%) via a reverse merger with a special purpose acquisition company (SPAC).

How much is LiveWire worth? ›

Interactive chart of historical net worth (market cap) for LiveWire (LVWR) over the last 10 years. How much a company is worth is typically represented by its market capitalization, or the current stock price multiplied by the number of shares outstanding. LiveWire net worth as of May 17, 2024 is $1.37B.

How much is the new Harley LiveWire? ›

At $15,499 for the production version, the LiveWire S2 Del Mar splits the gap in pricing. Sure, it's more expensive than a similarly performing gasoline-powered motorcycle.

Who owns LiveWire bikes? ›

Harley-Davidson will hold the majority ownership of LiveWire, with a 74% stake.

What is the top speed of a Harley-Davidson electric LiveWire? ›

110 MPH

Have Harley-Davidson sales dropped? ›

April 25 (Reuters) - Harley-Davidson (HOG. N) , opens new tab on Thursday reported a 23% decline in first-quarter profit, hurt by slowing motorcycle sales as high borrowing costs deter potential buyers from making expensive purchases, sending its shares down 18% in afternoon trade.

How many miles does a Harley LiveWire get? ›

LiveWire ONE electric motorcycle range

How many miles can you ride on a full battery before you have to recharge? LiveWire provides two estimated ranges, which it says are based on "expected performance." Highway riding will get you a range of around 70 miles, while city riding will increase that number to 146 miles.

Is LiveWire any good? ›

The suspension is firm, perfectly set up for the performance level. The tech is B+/A-. Sport mode is intoxicating and could easily see you in striped clothes very quickly. LiveWire is the easiest bike to ride through the city, and on the freeways, and a joy to rip roar, and throw around in the canyons.

Does Honda have an electric motorcycle? ›

Honda launched the world's first commercially available electric motorcycle in 1994, and has been the world leader in electric motorcycles ever since.

What is the fastest eBike? ›

What's the fastest electric bike?
ELECTRIC BIKEGOOD FORTOP SPEED
Hallomotor FC-1Speed110km/h
Hi Power Cycles Revolution XSpeed96km/h
Stealth B-52Speed80km/h
Delfast Top 3.0iSpeed80km/h
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What is an alternative to Harley Davidson LiveWire? ›

Harley Davidson's new electric motorcycle 🏍

The best alternatives to Harley Davidson LiveWire are Rad Power Bike, Lightning LS-218 Superbike, and Storm Electric Bike.

How much is a new LiveWire? ›

LiveWire ONE$22,799 Available for purchase today. S2 Del Mar$15,499 Available for purchase today. S2 Mulholland$15,999 Available for purchase today.

What is the difference between Zero SR and LiveWire? ›

The LiveWire One has a longer range and slightly faster acceleration, while the Zero SR/F has a higher top speed and more advanced safety features. Even though they have similar styles, touchscreens, riding modes, and wireless connectivity, the LiveWire One is cheaper than the Zero SR/F by $5000.

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