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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (22)Posted:Sep 29, 2015-7:32 PM
By: Andy_(Member)

I've just finished watching my Blu Rays of the Batman 1966 series, and have really taken a closer notice to the music than I ever did before. Zowie! Holy leitmotif, Batman! All the villain motifs and fight music from Nelson Riddle would be delightful. And the brand new flavor given by Billy May for season 3 with the wonderful theme (with lyrics!) for Yvonne Craig's Batgirl. There's so much more than what is represented on the feature movie score and the soundtrack album with the dialogue from Season 1. A lot of the music seemed tracked and repeated, so perhaps there's not as much music as one might expect from a 120 episode show.

It seems to me that the 50th anniversary of the show in 2016 would be the perfect opportunity to let the Bat out of the Cave so to speak. I can even think of which label would do the best, most appropriate job.

Any other citizens with me on this?

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (27)Posted:Sep 29, 2015-7:37 PM
By: barryfan(Member)

This would an instant buy for me!

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (33)Posted:Sep 29, 2015-8:36 PM
By: Solium(Member)

I think MV said he wasn't interested. Intrada doesn't do box sets, and FSM is no more. Maybe Varese?

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (39)Posted:Sep 29, 2015-8:40 PM
By: La La Land Records(Member)

I think MV said he wasn't interested. Intrada doesn't do box sets, and FSM is no more. Maybe Varese?

When the bleep did I say that? Its friggin Batman for god sakes!!

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (45)Posted:Sep 29, 2015-10:05 PM
By: Yavar Moradi(Member)

I'm pretty sure it was actually Lukas who commented on this board that he didn't think the TV show music was especially worthy of release, not MV...

Yavar

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (50)Posted:Sep 29, 2015-10:10 PM
By: TacktheCobbler(Member)

I'm pretty sure it was actually Lukas who commented on this board that he didn't think the TV show music was especially worthy of release, not MV...

Yavar

I also recall Lukas being the one who said the music for the 66' series was not worth releasing. I don't recall the exact quote, but I think he said something along the lines of the music being extremely repetitive.

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (56)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-6:34 AM
By: Solium(Member)

I think MV said he wasn't interested. Intrada doesn't do box sets, and FSM is no more. Maybe Varese?

When the bleep did I say that? Its friggin Batman for god sakes!!

Opps! Sorry for misquoting you. (Edit- Not misquote since you never said it, quoted the wrong person)

I'm pretty sure it was actually Lukas who commented on this board that he didn't think the TV show music was especially worthy of release, not MV...

Thxs Yavar, I knew I heard it from someone.

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (62)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-7:25 AM
By: Justin Boggan(Member)

January 22, 2014 Lukas said:
Way back at the beginning of the FSM CD series, when we were doing some Fox titles, we actually transferred a few of the mono Nelson Riddle scoring masters (before we learned that the ownership would make the licensing impossible). We did the Batman movie instead as its ownership was much simpler. I have to tell you...the TV scores were amongst the most annoyingly repetitive and drab things I had ever heard! Sorry...

Lukas

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (68)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-8:00 AM
By: Scott McOldsmith(Member)

One man's crap is another man's treasure. A lot of people said the same thing about Star Trek music. "Isn't it just the Amok Time fight music repeated over and over for three seasons?"

However, perhaps a Mission: Impossible style highlights set would be doable, if that is the case.

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (74)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-8:59 AM
By: Tom Servo(Member)

One man's crap is another man's treasure. A lot of people said the same thing about Star Trek music. "Isn't it just the Amok Time fight music repeated over and over for three seasons?"

However, perhaps a Mission: Impossible style highlights set would be doable, if that is the case.

I think the "highlights" approach is absolutely the best way to approach this show. The Mission: Impossible set is the model to follow. While it includes a great deal of variety, even by the final discs in that set I've had enough variations of "The Plot" theme to last a lifetime. I imagine it would be the same with Batman '66.

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (80)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-10:26 AM
By: SchiffyM(Member)

It's worth noting that Lukas didn't say "It was too repetitive and drab for me to consider releasing." The licensing issues made it impossible. (The truth is, all of our labels have issued CDs that aren't their favorite scores, along with their real passion projects.)

I haven't watched this series since I was maybe six, so Neal Hefti's iconic title theme aside, I can't comment on its listenability. (Yes, I know, you've all been waiting for my creative take on this.) But I do believe that, for projects like this, the highlights approach is almost always the way to go.

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (85)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-10:30 AM
By: Broughtfan(Member)

An argument could be made for a listenable "bat experience," Riddle's music for "Fine Feathered Finks" (first Penguin ep) alone featuring over a half hour of score. Riddle is also well represented with fine scores for episodes featuring one-time arch villains (The Bookworm, The Archer, The Minstrel, Clock King) as well as the S2 episode where Penguin runs for mayor of Gotham City and another where the Joker runs amok in Wayne Manor (and nearly ends up in the Batcave).

A good 4-6 CD set would probably do it.

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (91)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-10:36 AM
By: La La Land Records(Member)

The rights are very very complicated and we hope to make it happen someday. Honestly its my holiest of grails.

MV

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (97)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-10:48 AM
By: SchiffyM(Member)

Good luck, MV! My advice: Call up some people and ask if you can have the rights. Be sure to say "please"!

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (103)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-12:10 PM
By: Justin Boggan(Member)

Not every episode was fully scored with original compositions, instead tracks or edits were often layed in (for example: that repeated scene of the Batmobile pulling up to police HQ). You could probably -- out of all the Riddle-scored episodes, eliminate about a quarter of the music heard.

Have it in two or three volumes. Volume 1 with just Riddle. IF it sells well enough, a shorter Volume 2 with more of his scoring and anything worthy from the two or three episodes Baker did. Then put off May's season three efforts to his owm volume (simply because Riddle shouldn't be shortened to fit May in, May's efforts don't sound the same, and quite frankly his scoring was unremarkable).

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (109)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-1:42 PM
By: Yavar Moradi(Member)

Justin, if May's music was really so lackluster why would it warrant a volume all to itself, which probably wouldn't sell? It would make more sense to do this Mission: Impossible style, or two smaller volumes at the most, with perhaps less than half an hour containing the best of his work.

I can definitely understand the nostalgia factor for this, and perhaps the rights are more likely to be worked out now that there was a licensing arrangement done for the series itself. But the only Batman series for which we need every single magnificent note is the 90s animated series IMO...

Yavar

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (115)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-1:46 PM
By: Justin Boggan(Member)

For one of the reasons I stated: so no Riddle score is short-changed to cram the inferior (and in my opinion annying) scoring from May in. But I have no say on whether it will be done that way or if a third volume for just his work would be done -- it's just how I view it.

I wish Hefti had gotten a chance to score an episode or two.

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (121)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-2:20 PM
By: Traveling Matt(Member)

But the only Batman series for which we need every single magnificent note is the 90s animated series IMO...

Yavar

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (128)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-4:40 PM
By: Eric Paddon(Member)

I would welcome a CD release. There are many distinctive themes that were not in the movie score (the descent from the Batpoles, the running up the steps of Gotham Police HQ, as well as Riddle's best fight cue). In addition, there was one second season score by Warren Barker for the "Marsha, Queen of Diamonds" episode that also got reused heavily in the latter part (usually for the entrance of any other beautiful woman).

May's work in Season 3 was more frenetic, befitting the rushed pace of a show now cut back to a half hour but had some good parts in its own right.

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FSM Board: Batman 1966 50th Anniversary Next Year: Box Set? (134)Posted:Sep 30, 2015-4:47 PM
By: Justin Boggan(Member)

the running up the steps of Gotham Police HQ

That's heard at least once briefly in the film score, as I recall. I have it in one of my personal edited suites, I believe.

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